Comments on: Social agency and the intersection of communities and networks (draft) http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/ assistant professor, suny oswego Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:32:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lifelong learning as calm learning? | :: ed(ge)ucation design :: http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-517 Lifelong learning as calm learning? | :: ed(ge)ucation design :: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:36:15 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/#comment-517 [...] So how does this thinking link to what I experienced as ‘calm birth’ then? Well, from my view it means starting with the person, rather than the system in which the person likely operates. in essence it’s redefining what we have assumed to be learner centred approaches to teaching and learning. Still, we seem to take this as meaning providing options TO the learner to support and enhance their learning; rather, we should take the learner-at-the-centre approach and start there with their networks, their predispositions, their experiences, and so on. We require more discussion around the apparent preoccupation on separating ‘the system’ from the users/producers/agents (see for example, Mejias 2005). [...] [...] So how does this thinking link to what I experienced as ‘calm birth’ then? Well, from my view it means starting with the person, rather than the system in which the person likely operates. in essence it’s redefining what we have assumed to be learner centred approaches to teaching and learning. Still, we seem to take this as meaning providing options TO the learner to support and enhance their learning; rather, we should take the learner-at-the-centre approach and start there with their networks, their predispositions, their experiences, and so on. We require more discussion around the apparent preoccupation on separating ‘the system’ from the users/producers/agents (see for example, Mejias 2005). [...]

]]> By: ge-blog-t http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-147 ge-blog-t Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:29:12 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/#comment-147 <strong>Fundstück: i d e a n t: Social agency and the intersection of communities and networks (draft)</strong> Als Ergänzung zum vorangegangenen Postimg wird hier der Vesuch unternommen, Communities und Networks zu definieren und Unterschiede und Gemeinsamkeiten zu beschreiben: i d e a n t: Social agency and the intersection of communities and networks (draft) Fundstück: i d e a n t: Social agency and the intersection of communities and networks (draft)

Als Ergänzung zum vorangegangenen Postimg wird hier der Vesuch unternommen, Communities und Networks zu definieren und Unterschiede und Gemeinsamkeiten zu beschreiben: i d e a n t: Social agency and the intersection of communities and networks (draft)

]]> By: Ulises http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Ulises Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:13:45 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/#comment-146 John, you make good points about language. As you suggest, language mediates pretty much every human activity. However, I don't think we can say that it mediates "to an even greater extent than hardware and code," just differently. And it is precisely those differences that I am interested in exploring. Your point is well taken, though, and I will try to at least make a reference to the issue of language in the next draft. Thank you. John, you make good points about language. As you suggest, language mediates pretty much every human activity. However, I don’t think we can say that it mediates “to an even greater extent than hardware and code,” just differently. And it is precisely those differences that I am interested in exploring. Your point is well taken, though, and I will try to at least make a reference to the issue of language in the next draft. Thank you.

]]> By: John Voiklis http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-145 John Voiklis Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:47:37 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2005/10/16/social-agency-and-the-intersection-of-communities-and-networks-draft/#comment-145 Ulises, I started to read your article as a distraction from my own paper writing; I have not finished reading, but I am eager too. With that caveat I have to ask about your distinction between community and network, as well as your locus of agency. Isn't a "community" (and usually a "network") mediated by language--the ultimate object--to an even greater extent than hardware and code mediate a "network"; in fact, couldn't one argue that language is the means by which social realities emerge and propagate? If true, does that mean that human beings relinquish their agency to language? By calling language a "means," I make my answer obvious: human are the agents who apply the means. Your answer may be equally obvious in the unread portion of the paper; either way, I look forward to reading on. Ulises, I started to read your article as a distraction from my own paper writing; I have not finished reading, but I am eager too. With that caveat I have to ask about your distinction between community and network, as well as your locus of agency. Isn’t a “community” (and usually a “network”) mediated by language–the ultimate object–to an even greater extent than hardware and code mediate a “network”; in fact, couldn’t one argue that language is the means by which social realities emerge and propagate? If true, does that mean that human beings relinquish their agency to language? By calling language a “means,” I make my answer obvious: human are the agents who apply the means. Your answer may be equally obvious in the unread portion of the paper; either way, I look forward to reading on.

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