Comments on: The Faith & the Filth: Performing Hajj in 1427 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/ assistant professor, suny oswego Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:14:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: The Faith & the Filth: Performing Hajj in 1427 | Find Best Information about Islam on Internet http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 The Faith & the Filth: Performing Hajj in 1427 | Find Best Information about Islam on Internet Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:29:56 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-1071 [...] this article: The Faith & the Filth: Performing Hajj in 1427 This entry was posted in Hajj & Ummrah, Islam and tagged before-the-era, belief, fundamental, [...] [...] this article: The Faith & the Filth: Performing Hajj in 1427 This entry was posted in Hajj & Ummrah, Islam and tagged before-the-era, belief, fundamental, [...]

]]> By: Athar Rafiq http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-647 Athar Rafiq Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:03:47 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-647 Found you on researching valuable information for Hajj. You must be really disconnected from the real world..... and certainly, like most of us, extremely judgemental. Of course, I am judging about you judging the experience at Hajj. I disagree with any attempt to dishonor the experience of Hajj and the real mission here. Of course it is going to be filthy! Found you on researching valuable information for Hajj. You must be really disconnected from the real world….. and certainly, like most of us, extremely judgemental. Of course, I am judging about you judging the experience at Hajj.

I disagree with any attempt to dishonor the experience of Hajj and the real mission here. Of course it is going to be filthy!

]]> By: Mohsin beg http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-406 Mohsin beg Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:52:55 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-406 Aslaam Alkium Interesting opinons, I havent done Hajj, yet or Ummrah, but inshallah some-day. The lack of patience, lack of manners etc during Hajj, actually reflects the state of our Global Ummah. Education and practical implementation of the Quran is severely lacking. Most Muslims come supposedly come from third world countries, and the mentality is that, the only way to complete your Hajj is by "aggressively" pushing etc. Again, when you travell into third world muslim countries, you witness those ills, and then people from those societies carry the ills with them, and hence to Mecca. We cant blame others, we should only blame ourselves. If you see fault in something which you sincerely care about, then make it a journey in your life, to offer remedy to those problems. If you Live in the West, then their are plenty of tools, which can help you make some positive difference in the Ummah via education, charity, etc. Im a Scottish Muslim and in society here manners are extremely important. I guess its going to be a Physical Challenge, when inshallah, the day comes for me to Hajj, inshallah. Nevertheless, I look forward to all the challenges in view of performing Hajj Waslaam Mohsin beg Aslaam Alkium

Interesting opinons, I havent done Hajj, yet or Ummrah, but inshallah some-day.

The lack of patience, lack of manners etc during Hajj, actually reflects the state of our Global Ummah. Education and practical implementation of the Quran is severely lacking.

Most Muslims come supposedly come from third world countries, and the mentality is that, the only way to complete your Hajj is by “aggressively” pushing etc. Again, when you travell into third world muslim countries, you witness those ills, and then people from those societies carry the ills with them, and hence to Mecca.

We cant blame others, we should only blame ourselves. If you see fault in something which you sincerely care about, then make it a journey in your life, to offer remedy to those problems.

If you Live in the West, then their are plenty of tools, which can help you make some positive difference in the Ummah via education, charity, etc.

Im a Scottish Muslim and in society here manners are extremely important. I guess its going to be a Physical Challenge, when inshallah, the day comes for me to Hajj, inshallah. Nevertheless, I look forward to all the challenges in view of performing Hajj

Waslaam

Mohsin beg

]]> By: Riaz Haq http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-361 Riaz Haq Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:39:16 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-361 With Allah's blessing, I had the opportunity to perform Hajj in 1999. In spite of the efforts of the tour operator to provide good food, comfortable hotels, air conditioned transportation and other worldly amenities to our group, things generally did not go as planned. Tremendous delays at every point along the way, long waits, heavy traffic, pollution from the vehicles stuck in traffic and man-made pollution and bodily risks of all kind, I felt the inspirational and joyful experience from walking on the sacred land that our beloved Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) walked on and visit sites frequented by him made the entire effort well worth it. I would highly recommend it to anyone with the means and the desire to undertake this great spiritual journey. With Allah’s blessing, I had the opportunity to perform Hajj in 1999. In spite of the efforts of the tour operator to provide good food, comfortable hotels, air conditioned transportation and other worldly amenities to our group, things generally did not go as planned. Tremendous delays at every point along the way, long waits, heavy traffic, pollution from the vehicles stuck in traffic and man-made pollution and bodily risks of all kind, I felt the inspirational and joyful experience from walking on the sacred land that our beloved Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) walked on and visit sites frequented by him made the entire effort well worth it.

I would highly recommend it to anyone with the means and the desire to undertake this great spiritual journey.

]]> By: Mohammad Wasim http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Mohammad Wasim Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:01:55 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-286 LABBAIK ALLAH UMMA LABBAIK LABBAIK LAA SHAREEKA LAKA LABBAIK INNAL HAMDA WAN-NI'MATA LAKA WAL MULK LAA SHAREEKA LAK Respectable Hajj Pilgrims As'Salâm Alaikum Wa'Rahmatullâhi Wa'Barakâtuh By the grace of Almighty Allah you shall soon be traveling for performing Hajj. Surely you shall take care of the sacredness of Harmain Shareefain (Makkah Al Mukarama and Madina Al Munawara). In this regard we request you to remove Musical Ring Tones from your mobile phones before departure and during Hajj try to keep your mobile phones on Vibrators/Silent. By this you shall be avoiding any disturbance to your worship as well as to the worships of other pilgrims and furthermore the sacredness of Harmain Shareefain shall not be harmed. We hope that you shall put heed to this request and shall convey this message to other pilgrims as well. May Allah Subhanawatallah accept your Hajj. Ameen Was’Salâm Alaikum LABBAIK ALLAH UMMA LABBAIK
LABBAIK LAA SHAREEKA LAKA LABBAIK INNAL HAMDA WAN-NI’MATA LAKA WAL MULK LAA SHAREEKA LAK

Respectable Hajj Pilgrims

As’Salâm Alaikum Wa’Rahmatullâhi Wa’Barakâtuh

By the grace of Almighty Allah you shall soon be traveling for performing Hajj. Surely you shall take care of the sacredness of Harmain Shareefain (Makkah Al Mukarama and Madina Al Munawara). In this regard we request you to remove Musical Ring Tones from your mobile phones before departure and during Hajj try to keep your mobile phones on Vibrators/Silent. By this you shall be avoiding any disturbance to your worship as well as to the worships of other pilgrims and furthermore the sacredness of Harmain Shareefain shall not be harmed. We hope that you shall put heed to this request and shall convey this message to other pilgrims as well. May Allah Subhanawatallah accept your Hajj. Ameen

Was’Salâm Alaikum

]]> By: Tato Sugiarto http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-285 Tato Sugiarto Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:32:03 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-285 Dear Brother, The HAJJ is a paradox - the basics and the advance teaching of ISLAM (the foundation and the roof). Simple in performance, but sophisticated in meanings. It is the extract off all religions, and also the basic theory of existance. Understanding the Hajj, it should be supported by metaphysics and parapsychology, at least, men have knowledge in basic physics and psychology as well. Speculation in the making of concept, or implemntation on trial and error basis should be avoided. I am so sorry, the Hajj has not been studied seriously. So, Moslems societies are still standing on weak foundation. Dear Brother,

The HAJJ is a paradox – the basics and the advance teaching of ISLAM (the foundation and the roof). Simple in performance, but sophisticated in meanings. It is the extract off all religions, and also the basic theory of existance. Understanding the Hajj, it should be supported by metaphysics and parapsychology, at least, men have knowledge in basic physics and psychology as well. Speculation in the making of concept, or implemntation on trial and error basis should be avoided.

I am so sorry, the Hajj has not been studied seriously. So, Moslems societies are still standing on weak foundation.

]]> By: Ulises http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-284 Ulises Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:57:26 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-284 Thanks for your insightful comments, Dave. Thanks for your insightful comments, Dave.

]]> By: Dave F. http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-283 Dave F. Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:52:55 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-283 Ulises, Thank you from one non-Muslim whose view of Islam is enlightened, not diminished, by your post. The spiritual gifts aren't taken away by the gritty reality; rather, the gritty reality challenges the believes (in any faith) to transform belief into action. My guess is that for you, Mecca is a sacred place, but you also know that God is present wherever you happen to be. An Orthodox Jew I know explains that for him, adhering to all the commandments in the Torah, even the obscure ones like not mixing wool and linen in clothing, is a form of mindfulness. Throughout his day, what he does and what he eats and what he wears all remind him of his faith. Perhaps a similar concept is one of the reasons behind the daily times for prayer. Another thought is that everyone's life involves similar contrasts. Even Paul the apostle worked as a tentmaker. The Jewish sage Hillel was a woodcutter. Someone has to wash the dishes and clean the bathrooms at a monastery. Pilgrims to Jerusalem or Rome or Mecca need transportation, food, drink, lodging... and probably a little peace and quiet as well. Perhaps when they accept the paradox of dirt and discomfort along with personal growth, they're more open to the idea that other people, following other beliefs, can also accept reality and can also grow as they reach toward better understanding. If we're following the road that seems best to us, we can perhaps allow others to follow the one that seems best to them. Ulises,

Thank you from one non-Muslim whose view of Islam is enlightened, not diminished, by your post. The spiritual gifts aren’t taken away by the gritty reality; rather, the gritty reality challenges the believes (in any faith) to transform belief into action.

My guess is that for you, Mecca is a sacred place, but you also know that God is present wherever you happen to be. An Orthodox Jew I know explains that for him, adhering to all the commandments in the Torah, even the obscure ones like not mixing wool and linen in clothing, is a form of mindfulness. Throughout his day, what he does and what he eats and what he wears all remind him of his faith.

Perhaps a similar concept is one of the reasons behind the daily times for prayer.

Another thought is that everyone’s life involves similar contrasts. Even Paul the apostle worked as a tentmaker. The Jewish sage Hillel was a woodcutter. Someone has to wash the dishes and clean the bathrooms at a monastery. Pilgrims to Jerusalem or Rome or Mecca need transportation, food, drink, lodging… and probably a little peace and quiet as well.

Perhaps when they accept the paradox of dirt and discomfort along with personal growth, they’re more open to the idea that other people, following other beliefs, can also accept reality and can also grow as they reach toward better understanding.

If we’re following the road that seems best to us, we can perhaps allow others to follow the one that seems best to them.

]]> By: n http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-282 n Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:52:40 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-282 Center for Constitutional Rights - the Gitmo Reading at giac. Perhaps it wasnt you on stage - but I thought I recognized your voice and unique bio! Center for Constitutional Rights – the Gitmo Reading at giac.
Perhaps it wasnt you on stage – but I thought I recognized your voice and unique bio!

]]> By: Ulises http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/comment-page-1/#comment-281 Ulises Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:52:55 +0000 http://blog.ulisesmejias.com/2007/01/08/the-faith-the-filth-performing-hajj-in-1427/#comment-281 Thank you for your comment, Sister N. And what exactly is the CCR, if you don't mind my asking? Salams. Thank you for your comment, Sister N. And what exactly is the CCR, if you don’t mind my asking?

Salams.

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